Hi, everyone, and welcome. Today, I have the pleasure of interviewing the amazing Kimberly Snyder. I you haven’t heard of her, you must be living under a rock, she’s amazing!
Kimberly is the founder of Solluna and the Feel Good Movement. She’s also a multi-time New York Times bestselling author of the Beauty Detox book series and Radical Beauty, co-written with Deepak Chopra. Not to forget, she’s also a nutritionist, renowned speaker, meditation teacher, certified yoga instructor, and holistic wellness expert. Basically the long and short of it, is Kimberly does it all. So Kimberly, thank you for being here today!
Kimberly Snyder: Oh Ashley, thank you so much for having me. I am so thrilled to be here today.
Ashley: Now, I am really excited to be chatting with you, because you have a new book out. It’s called Recipes for Your Perfectly Imperfect Life. Last time you and I were chatting, you told me a little bit about why this project was so important to you and how this came to be.
Could you share a little bit about the journey that this project took you on?
Kimberly: Yes. So this book actually feels very, very different than my other books. I went through a lot personally around the writing of this book. Last year, my Mom ended up passing away really suddenly within six weeks. She passed within a few days of my son turning one. So it was one of those moments in our lives where we just had what I can only describe as an awakening. I felt like I had a Durga sword cut right to my heart. And it cut through all these layers. I started to feel this really deep clarity, I was looking at things in a different way.
I have worked in wellness now for over 10 years. When I look around, I can still see so much suffering, so much perfectionism and comparison within Instagram, all contributing to this deep feeling of not enough-ness, feeling like we’re still not enough or not doing enough or not skinny enough. We don’t know enough. We haven’t got enough time by a certain age or whatever it is. So this book really came out of that. I was healing myself, and I was writing this book in that period. It’s written with the intention, with the mission of helping women and everyone feel better, feel good, feel connected to ourselves.
Ultimately, this book was created to help us find more peace in our perfectly imperfect lives.
When I say feel good in our Feel Good Movement, it doesn’t mean, oh, we’re up and elated and happy all the time. It means we’re connected to ourselves, to our guidance, to that inner wisdom. Through the ups and downs of life we go through so many cycles. Solluna, the name of my brand, means the sun and the moon. So it’s in the dark period when seeds are planted. New beginnings come out of the darkness. So we certainly don’t want to shy away from the darkness. It’s then that we can feel connected to ourselves more and more. Again, find peace. It’s not like, oh, we have to be happy once we lose 10 pounds or once we get that new job or we get the boyfriend or the wife or whatever it is. We can actually find it now.
The other thing I’ll say is, the title Perfectly Imperfect comes from me being a recovering perfectionist and having eating disorders. I was bulimarexic. And I think that’s why I was drawn to becoming a Nutritionist in the first place — I was healing myself.
I think we teach what we need to heal in ourselves, what we want to learn.
Ashley: So true.
Kimberly: So, it was both. And I talked about this in the book… Our value really comes from us simply existing and being alive. We have these unique souls, and we need to do nothing to gain that value. Once we connect with our value — and there’s tools and strategies and even recipes and foods that help drop us into that space that are in Recipes for Your Perfectly Imperfect Life — then we can look at the imperfections.
We can say, “Oh, you know what? I have 10 zits on my face today. All right. My skin’s not perfect.” Or, “Yes, I want to lose a couple of pounds.” Or, “Okay. I’m going to get my act together, and execute this business plan,” or whatever it is. All the outside stuff is imperfect. But we don’t take it so seriously. It’s not so dire. It’s not our self-esteem on the line like when we have that connection to the perfection through whatever we’re going through externally.
So we’re both — we’re perfect and we’re imperfect. I think it’s really important to know that.
It’s a really important message for us to understand. Otherwise, we will continue to suffer, continue to feel like we can’t really be happy and peaceful until we have X, Y, Z. The list keeps going on and on, and it’s exhausting.
Ashley: I just have to thank you for sharing that and getting so kind of deeply personal with us about it. Because here’s the thing, I’m sure so many people out there listening right now are thinking, “Oh my gosh, Kimberly. Even you feel like that sometimes!” Because we do have this tendency, especially modern day where so many of us are so vulnerable and sharing so much on social media, to compare ourselves to others — especially to bigger influencers, which of course you are. So to be reminded that you are a human being too and you have these ups and downs is reassuring. I think in a way it’s comforting for people who do get caught up in that idea of comparison.
I have to tell you, one thing I’m so ecstatic about with this book is most of the time, when you’re dealing with a book that’s recipes or nutrition or something about nourishing the physical body, you don’t have that also deeply spiritual aspect to it. You’ve found a way to bring nutrition and spirituality together in perfect harmony. So it’s not just about the physical, it’s about the spiritual as well. It’s about accepting that these two really go hand-in-hand. I was wondering if you’d be able to talk a little bit about that? How does that exactly fit into this?
Why is spirituality so much a part of what you do?
Kimberly: Yes. So I feel as our journey continues, we celebrate this idea of holism and then the wholeness that we are. So it’s not, “Oh, here’s the box where wellness is. That’s just how I exercise and how I eat. And here’s how I meditate and destress. And here’s how I balance my emotions.” It’s actually one continuous loop.
Then there’s the quantum physics. Where does the wave begin? Where does it end, right? There’s no duality. There’s no actual separation. So there’s amazing research in this book around specifically bloating information. As someone that has suffered a lot of digestive issues — I’ve had a lot of bloating in my life — this was important to me.
There’s amazing research connecting how our thoughts and our emotions contribute to our digestion and bloating.
So think about this, Ashley. Imagine, you take the right probiotics. You gave up dairy. You do all these things. You give up gluten. And you’re like, “Wait. I’m still bloated all the time.” So we hear about the gut-brain access, about really nourishing our microbiome and the effects on neurotransmitters. It affects our moods. And guess what? It goes the other way, too. When we are not letting go of, let’s say, anger, resentment and limiting beliefs. We’re not letting go of thoughts, they’re not being processed through.
When we’re bloated in our mind, that actually translates and impacts the bloating in our belly.
Same thing with inflammation. We think of it as a function of eating refined sugars or rancid fats or whatever, vegetable oils that are cooked. All these things can create inflammation in the body. But guess what? Anger and victim-mentality and really feeling all this angst in our mind creates acidity, creates inflammation in the body. So when we can actually wrap our head around and understand this, it is so empowering, because it means, wow, I can actually work.
There’s all these other things I can do: I can work on meditating. I can work on mindfulness. I can work on grounding, being outside. And that is part of everything else. It’s so empowering. It’s so wonderful. It means that we can really get to wellness in a much deeper way, a much more peaceful way. Not just from how it looks on the surface or what we weigh on the scale in these finite numbers, but actually going into how we feel. Just very different than over thinking.
Ashley: I’m sure a lot of us can relate to that. I mean I think about the days where I am really taking care of myself mentally, emotionally and spiritually — I feel physically better. And when you have longer periods of that, your body really reacts and responds. When I’m really good about my meditation practice, I feel better. I make better choices in terms of what I’m eating, how I’m taking care of my body.
It’s all just a big cycle. Like you said, this doesn’t just go one way. Our body, our mind, our gut, our spiritual energy — It’s all interrelated.
Kimberly: It is interrelated. And I have found that people that have a deeply spiritual practice, which so much of it is rooted in surrendering to the divine, the universe, whatever word we want to use, the consciousness, God. When we have that, I feel like, we let go of trying to control everything which creates so much rigidity. It lets our bodies let go. So we let go of acids. We let go. We tend to let go of excess weight. We tend to let go of heaviness. Our skin looks better. I’ve seen this time and time again, Ashley. We actually look younger, because we don’t have that heaviness. And there are foods that are supportive of this process.
So for instance in this book, talking about linking the two — when we’re talking about body shame and perfectionism, like beating our bodies up, these are overthinking issues. We want to drop into the body. We want to feel our body. We want to get into our body for maybe the first time. So ginger, a very simple food, warms the body. It increases circulation and metabolism. We can just make some ginger tea or throw it in a soup. That can help break the circular mind pattern by feeling our body, feeling that expansion, combining that with some deep breathing and taking a pause, shifting our mood in a different way.
Food is a tool that we can actually utilize. Through using it, we can start to look at nourishment in a much more holistic way.
I’ll say it again. When we feel better, and we’re connected to ourselves, we tend to look better too, which is sort of the ironic part of this. It doesn’t have to be so hard and arduous. We can actually feel a lot more easeful. And we get better results.
Ashley: Oh, that’s absolutely true. Let me ask you this, Kimberly. This is all about this perfectly imperfect life. And so,
What would you say is the biggest thing that you want people to know when working with this book?
What is it that you want to be the ultimate take away for them? Because I know that you’ve had a big influence on a lot of really big names: Reese Witherspoon, Drew Barrymore, Ben Stiller, Fergie. You’ve had so many people who have learned a lot about nutrition from the really approachable way that you present things. So just for us everyday folks out here, what would be the really big take away you want all of us to get from this? Because it’s really different to all your other books.
Kimberly: Yes. And I will say that every client I’ve ever worked with, some of my newer clients now, Jessica Alba and Margot Robbie, and all the people that are really in the spotlight, it has never just been nutrition. It has always been this holistic approach, which is really cool to bring out into the public space. It is the philosophy, the perspective-shifting mentality, right? So it’s sitting with them, talking with them, doing reiki, and healing, and yoga, and meditation.
It’s always been everything with my clients. It’s never ever just been food.
So I will say the thing I think is the biggest part of the book — and this is why this book is so different, because I found it within myself while writing this book — is our true value. When you connect to that value inside of ourselves, that’s who we really are. So if you take away the layers, like oh, I have value because I’m a mom and I have a career. Or, I do this. And I run around. No. No. No. You take all that out.
Your value is simply because of who you are, because you live, because of your soul, because you are alive, because you exist.
Page 73 in the book is called: The Real Source of our Worth. That’s when I talk about this moment, this epiphany. It was actually in Tulum, Mexico in May. While I was writing this book, I was meditating next to a cenote. You’ll really never know when these things are going happen, Ashley. My son was asleep. My two-year-old was asleep. So I went to the cenote and I had a moment of realization. I could sell millions more books, I could sell my probiotics, my skin care. It would never be enough. And I just clicked. I’m worthy just because I am.
You know this very spiritual concept like I Am That, That I Am. And it clicked. And that’s what this is — this whole book, the whole thing. It’s the stories, the research, the food, the recipes. It’s meant to help us remember that we just are. We are worthy. Our value comes from who we are. And when we connect with that, whether it’s a celebrity client I have or a friend or a mom or a reader, anybody– when you connect with that, your outside world, including the physical shape of your body, but often your career, your relationships, everything shifts. That is the game changer.
It’s then that we can start to understand that we are not just what we look like on the surface or our filtered Instagram pictures or how much money we make or what our job title is. Our worth is our core.
When we connect with that, it completely changes the vibration of our entire lives. So this book is dedicated to helping awaken that resonance in everyone who reads it. My hope is that you start to remember that powerful, beautiful soul that you are. We all are. Everybody has it. And there’s no competition. There’s no comparison because nobody can be you. And so it’s a very deep, deep thing.
I talked about self-love and all that stuff for years. But now, I’m interacting with my clients in a different way. I feel different. And I would just love for everyone to experience more of that peace and joy. And listen. I’m not perfect. It’s not like I have it all figured out. But once you get it, you’re like, “Oh.” Even the days where you feel down on yourself, it’s not the same because you remember– we remember that deeper part. And so we can keep working back to create that as the new normal.
Ashley: I love that.
So how does this mindset shift really start?
I mean does it start in the mind itself? Does it start in the body? Does it start with this culmination of bringing both of these things together in this kind of spirit of self-love and self-care? Like what is the secret? How do we discover that? I know this is a question people have been asking for thousands of years. Or at least how did it start in your own personal journey? Was it really as simple as it just came to you in that moment of stillness next to a cenote?
Kimberly: No. I mean I think it’s multi-faceted. I think it happens differently for different people.
I think a large part of making the change is driven by the practical aspects of life.
Like in the book, there’s very practical tools. Here’s the morning ritual. Here’s what you put in your body first thing. Here’s what you drink. Here’s when you take your probiotics. Here’s how you meditate. It’s all about how we set ourselves up for the day.
I think food is a very important pathway in, because it’s something you can see and hold. And we live in this mentality that things we see seem more real, even though we know there’s so much more that we can’t see. But I think food is very supportive. Like l was talking about ginger and the recipes in the book are designed to hold the space.
At the same time, there’s also the less practical or routine based tools in the book, which are so important.
For example, there’s something called the stumbling block technique around getting past limiting stories. There’s the letting go technique, as well as things that tie in with food, and using the perspective-shifting mentality. I talk about how we change from thinking “I’m either pretty, or I’m ugly” to “Hey, I’m healthy and sometimes, I drink margaritas with my friends.” “I’m a good mom and sometimes I lose my temper”, right? You can be both. When we have that attitude, it encompasses more of the wholeness. So it’s a combination.
Ashley: So it is truly this integrative mind-body approach which I love.
Ashley: I think one of the reasons that we can connect to this so easily, like you said, is because food is this physical thing, right?
Ashley: We interact with it. We experience it. I know that on a personal level, you really love crystals, too. And for me, that’s one of the reasons I’m so drawn to crystals. It’s like this wonderful reminder. It’s this thing I can hold. Food is very much the same way for me. So I just, I love that kind of analogy.
Food is this physical thing that we interact and engage with all the time. It just makes sense that it would play a huge role in our lives, right?
Kimberly: It’s true. Ram Dass talks about ‘Love Serve Remember’ and this remembrance is where it keeps coming up for me. We’re on this journey I believe to remember who we are, to remember our true value. We are one with the divine. To remember our soul and to remember the truth. We are also in this 3D world and we have food and crystals as tools. Crystals can be used with intention to remind you of what you’re working on, and you can feel their support.
I always have crystals in my purse, in my pocket — so many that I have gotten from you, Ashley. I love them all. Actually I’m staying here in this room with this amazing angel quartz that you sent me. I’m so grateful for that. We connected on that level because crystals are– in essence, light in the physical form. They’re different vibrations of light coming through. So they are very supportive, because everything is vibration.
Everything is energy. Food is energy. Crystals are energy. Our thoughts and feelings — everything is energy. Our bodies are energy.
So when we get that, we can harness that power. We can have this support. And we can have crystals around. I’m a huge fan of all these supportive tools.
Ashley: Well, thank you so much for that, Kimberly. Thank you for sharing all of these amazing perspectives and outlooks on living what really can be a perfectly imperfect life and how it starts with mind and body. Really it starts with us and our intention. Thank you so much for taking the time to share everything today.
Kimberly: Thank you so much, Ashley. I love everything you’re doing as well. I love the mindfulness and the consciousness-raising vibration you’re putting out in the world. So thank you, sister.
Ashley: Thank you.
Be sure to check out Recipes for Your Perfectly Imperfect Life by Kimberly Snyder. It’s available right now, it’s the number one new release!
Ashley: I’ve already pre-ordered my copy!
Ashley: –just wait for that.
Kimberly: Thank you, my love. Thank you so much.
Ashley: Well, thank you so much for being here. And of course, we will have links to Kimberly’s website, everywhere you can stay in-touch with her on social (Instagram , Facebook , Twitter, YouTube, Pinterest) and link to order that book over on the blog.
Kimberly: Yay, thank you.
Kimberly Snyder, C.N. is the multi-time New York Times bestselling author of The Beauty Detox book series and Radical Beauty, co-written with Deepak Chopra. She is the founder of Solluna, a holistic lifestyle brand and the #FeelGoodMovement, which promotes eating and living to be connected to our unique bodies, intuition and true worth.
Snyder is also a nutritionist, renowned speaker, meditation teacher, certified yoga instructor, and holistic wellness expert. She hosts the top-rated Feel Good Podcast with Kimberly Snyder, which airs on the PodcastOne network.
Kimberly has worked with dozens of A-list celebrities, such as Drew Barrymore, Reese Witherspoon and Channing Tatum, and has been featured in media outlets including Ellen, Today, Good Morning America, The Dr. Oz Show, The New York Times, Vanity Fair, The Wall Street Journal, Elle, and InStyle, and is a member of the Wellness Council for Well + Good. Named one of the top “results-oriented nutritionists” by Vogue, she runs her Solluna organic juice and smoothie bar at the iconic Four Seasons hotel in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles.