Today I’m so excited to get to be speaking with the amazing ladies at Energy Muse, Heather Askinosie and Timmi Jandro. So ladies, thank you so much for being here with us today.
I’ve been really looking forward to talking to you both again. Our last conversation really got me thinking…One of the things that we touched on during that interview was clearing cords with crystal energy. So, I thought that would be a great thing to share with everyone today.
Can you tell us a little bit about energetic cords?
Timmi Jandro: So, sometimes people don’t even realize that they have attached to someone energetically. Again, I could just use Heather and I as an example. We’re around each other a lot. And so, let’s say I come in and I’m having a terrible day. I might not mean to put that energy towards Heather, but because we’re so close, she feels it. It’s a good practice that we use often because you want to just be free of that energy and it’s not like she’s cutting me out of her life. She’s cutting that energetic cord, sending light my way to replace that cut or that energy that’s been cut. Then we move on and you feel a lot lighter because when you’re a sensitive person and you’re around people, you can pick up on energy so easily. And even when you’re not so sensitive, it happens.
Ashley: So, for someone who’s new to this concept, they probably haven’t heard this term before. So these are really just energetic attachments between people.
Can we be corded to places or objects as well?
Heather Askinosie: Yeah. I think, for me how I get my head around it, because I always have to get my head around it, is that when we get attached to something. Say it could be a crystal, and when you see this crystal and you’re like, oh, I really want it, but it’s maybe out of my price range or what not, but you can’t stop thinking about it. So that could be more of an object. Or sometimes we can be attached to places we’ve traveled to and emotions and experiences that we had there.
The reason it’s important to cut the cords, even if it’s a fantastic experience, is that we want to have all our energy fully invested in ourselves. I don’t want to be leaking it, whether it’s good, bad, or indifferent. And so, cutting the cords helps you really find out where you’re leaking your energy. Where are your thoughts in the past? Where are your thoughts in the future? It can keep us from being in the now moment because we’re not fully present. So, I look at it as an almost spiritual housecleaning. That way, we are empowered to be in the present moment. It gives us a tool to help us cut or disconnect.
Ashley: Yeah, that’s so true. And you touched on my next question a little bit there, which was…
What really happens to our energy body when we have these cords or attachments?
You mentioned this idea of an energy leak. Now, can you explain to everyone why that is a bad thing?
Timmi Jandro: For me, you might feel physically drained. So it might be more of a physical thing. And if you look at it energetically, it might be that one of your chakras where the attachment has occurred may be blocked because that cord is there to another person.
Heather Askinosie: So, this might be going a little bit deeper. I don’t know if it’s too much, but I’m just going to say it.
What I’m researching now with crystals is how trauma is held in our body. Specifically, how we could use the energy of the earth to help us go back on a cellular level and re-pattern ourselves.
Okay. So, hypothetically, you’re in fifth grade and you’re playing on the bars at school, and you fall off and somebody laughs at you. A lot of times we think, you know what, maybe that didn’t have any kind of traumatic effect on us. But maybe it did. In some little respect, it made us not feel as confident. So maybe we didn’t go on the bars as much.
How does that one little event play out over time and how can we use cutting the cords on a deeper level? Where the more we get grounded into our own spirit, we could go, huh, okay, I want to deal with confidence and self love, or why is it I’m not stepping out like I used to? And what happens is, as we go through these healing processes. Events come up in our head and we could use the same cutting the cord as an event that not only happened now, but it could have happened in our childhood, that over time leaves its mark.
What I am finding is that with crystals, once we cut it, we can use a crystal to put it on our body. And then we can also, if we are energy and we’re light beams, reprogram that link that once held us back and fill that space up and rewrite our stories. Does that make sense?
Ashley: Absolutely. I love this idea of these cords going back into the past. Energy is just energy.
Energy, it stays with us, it transforms us. I love this idea of energetically reaching back into the past to change things.
Heather Askinosie: What I am finding personally is that the crystal world is able to really get there quickly on some of these levels. It’s exciting as someone who’s been practicing or working with crystals for 26 years. This is something new I’m researching on the energetic cellular level. It’s really amazing and exciting.
Ashley: That’s super phenomenal. I look forward to seeing what you discover with that.
Let me ask you this. We talked about how we can send cords to other people, other places, or objects.
Can other people also attach cords to us? And how does that work? How do these cords come into our field?
Heather Askinosie: Well, in my opinion, by thinking of somebody, or speaking to somebody, if they like what you said, you can connect to them. And so, this tool or this practice, in my opinion, it should be done on a daily basis. This is spiritual housecleaning, and we need to do that often. We could cord to our kids. We could cord our parents. It’s not like it’s a good or bad thing. That’s the human consciousness putting judgment on it because it’s all personal interpretation.
The power of this spiritual medicine is that we are empowered on a daily basis to say, “I cut anything that maybe I have sent, whether it’s conscious or not conscious. And anything that was sent to me, whether it’s conscious or not conscious, with love and light. Sending it to the highest beam, sending it back, filling my own self up with energy and refueling. So that at least I could start the day being present in me and not have 20 other people and things going on.” You’ll feel the shift. It’s something that is so beyond the intellectual. It’s sometimes even hard to put words, human words, around it. But I think that people that listen to you, they will feel it. It’s not an intellectual thing. You’ll feel lighter. You will feel a difference.
Ashley: Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
This is a practice I started doing many years ago and I cannot even explain the difference in my energy level, in my emotions, in my physical well being.
It really does impact you on every level of your being. It creates this amazing transformation. I remember, especially for those of us, like you said, who are energetically sensitive, who are lightworkers, who are maybe empaths. We are so sensitive and many of us are little sponges.
Well, for those of you out there right now, imagine if you have all these connections going to all these different places. Think about what kind of energy overload and overwhelm that creates, especially for a highly sensitive person. And just by doing this daily activity, you can cleanse yourself of that.
How can people create a little ritual or something that reminds them? For me, I do this while I’m in the shower, because it’s just natural. You’re doing some physical cleansing, you might as well do a little energetic cleansing at the same time.
Is there a good way that you recommend people get in the habit or routine of doing this?
Timmi Jandro: We like to work with Black Kyanite. If you look at Black Kyanite, it actually looks like a little sword. So again, working with the energy and the energetic cords, if you start at your first chakra, and cut all the way up energetically through the energetic field that’s in front of you, never touching yourself with this, but just letting go and cutting through all those cords through the first through the seventh chakra, you can really feel the lightness as you continue up through this cord cutting ritual.
Then, we suggest holding this Kyanite in each of those chakras, starting at the base for one minute. You work all the way up until you get to the seventh chakra. So, you’re really working with the energy of the Kyanite to help disconnect you from the cords you put out or that have been put on to you.
Can I share a true story?
Because sometimes, once again, I’m a researcher and I’m also probably one of the biggest skeptics you’re ever going to meet. So you got to prove it to me with all this stuff. So the reason I want to share this one story is because even as someone who does this all the time, I like to hear the feedback from people that have done something and give me the real life result here. You know what I mean?
A couple of weeks ago, Timmi and I had to talk and teach this. So, we called all the people at Energy Muse to come in and practice this ritual. And without giving too many details, I’ll just share the crux of it. Everyone did it, everyone left, and a couple of days later, one of the girls in our office said, “Hey, I want to share a story with you.” And I said, “Okay.” She said, “I did the cutting the cord and I thought of somebody and I didn’t want to cut the cord because I was very angry with this person, and there was a lot of family dynamics and a lot of pain and a lot of anger.”
One of the things that I suggest is that whoever we are cutting the cord with, we fill ourselves with light, and we send that person forgiveness.
And she said, “It was hard because I didn’t want to forgive.” I mean, there’s a lot going on. And so she said, “It was difficult for me, but I did it.” So she said, “I’ve been trying to get a new car and this and that. And there’s been some money things,” and blah, blah, blah, blah. She hadn’t talked to this person for six months. After cutting the cord and sending sincere forgiveness, the person called and said, “Look, I’m calling you, out of the blue, I was thinking of you, and I came across a new car and I want to give it to you.” And she was like, “Why are you calling me? What’s going on?” And she said, “I just feel it’s the right thing to do.”
Now granted, I’m going to be honest. I have not received a new car from doing this technique, and the rest of the office hasn’t, but the point of the story is that, she went to the core of herself where she realized that by holding on to these emotions and not forgiving was keeping her linked and not really truly free. And so, I guess the moral of the story isn’t so much the cool car that she got, which is awesome, and it’s in the back now, but is that, she said she freed herself of something that she felt was in her body for years, but it came on her end, where when she cut it, instead of cutting it and be like, all right, we’re done. I forgive you. I really forgive you. Now, we’re done. Does that make sense?
Ashley: I am so glad that you just touched on this.
I think that when it comes to cord cutting, this embracing of forgiveness on a really deep level can go back and heal such a big part of you.
When I first started doing cord cutting over a decade ago, I didn’t realize I was an angry person at that time of my life. Looking back now, I think, oh my gosh, how did I function with all of that pent up emotion and stored emotion. That was so unhealthy for me and unhealthy for the people around me. And it’s so hard to even think of myself that way. I don’t even feel like that person anymore, but so much of it was because of that unwillingness to forgive or that feeling like you’re not ready and hanging on to that stuff that is just not good for us.
This is such an amazing technique to do, to finally move past that stuff, even if you feel maybe like you aren’t ready. When you just get into the habit and practice of doing this, it’s just like doing anything like gratitude journaling, and when you get into this habit, it starts to come more naturally. You start to recognize it in other areas of your life. You start to be more conscious of how this really affects you on an energetic level, so thank you so much for speaking to that and for sharing this example and for explaining that the ultimate goal was not the car.
The ultimate goal is the deep level of healing that this person got. I love that.
Timmi Jandro: I think as well when you do this ritual, you might have someone in mind, but then you’re starting the process and something or someone else comes up. You’ve got to honor that because there might be something even more important you need to work with. It happens to me all the time. I think, oh, I’ve got this handled. I know exactly what I should be releasing. But then something else comes up that has really been gnawing at me for a long time. So you have to honor it.
Ashley: Yeah. Well, let me ask you both this question. We talked a little bit about how often we should be doing this and we really should be striving for doing it every day, but I think, we’re all human, we’re all going to miss a day here or there. We’re going to forget. I find that if I have little reminders for myself about things, it really helps me tune in. So for example, if I find that my neck is really hurting through the day, it means that I probably haven’t done yoga yet. There are just little cues and I go, oh, wait a minute and they’re just reminders to check in. So, what are some things that people should look for, maybe in their emotional wellbeing, their physical wellbeing, their energetic wellbeing?
What are the signs people should look out for that it’s definitely time to cut these cords?
Timmi Jandro: I know for me, it’s when I start being short with people, maybe getting a little cynical or sarcastic, I might be pushing down things and acting as if everything’s okay, yet it’s not. And when I start going there, I’m like, hm, something’s off. And that’s a good tip for me.
Heather Askinosie: Yeah, and going back to the whole healer heal thyself is that a lot of the work on this spiritual journey is about us getting to know ourselves, which is awfully scary sometimes. And so, it’s that reminder to check in and be alone a little bit because when we get in tune with ourselves, we know when things are off. We know when we just don’t really feel ourselves. We know when our, maybe our head, our thoughts, get more negative talk or that we’re not seeing life how we normally see it, because maybe we have so many other energies coming at us that we’re not even ourselves. So, it’ll be different for everyone, but when you know yourself a bit better, you know when you’re off quicker.
Ashley: Yeah. That’s so true and that’s really great advice. Well, let me ask you one final question here, as it relates to this whole topic.
Is there anything that we can do or any crystals that we can use to actually help prevent this?
We’ve talked about how to remedy the situation, how to recognize it when it’s happening. Is there anything that we can do more preventively to really help us just avoid getting into these energy connection cord patterns in the first place? Just to make us more conscious of where energy is going to begin with.
Heather Askinosie: Wow. Gosh, if you figured the answer out to that, will you call? No seriously, tell me the podcast it’s on because I really want to watch it. You know what? I personally, I feel, life on our planet earth is a life lesson and it is a journey for us human beings, and I think awareness, and even for somebody who meditates and does all this stuff, I got a lot of stuff I’m still working through. Even though I want to be great and all that, I have a teenager and there’s a trigger that happens the minute when some of that stuff goes down. Cord, cord, cut, cut.
But I think that awareness is a big deal. Life is moving fast nowadays. And even if we want to be in that state, it’s human nature to have things come up. But really, I don’t know. I honestly can’t answer that question because I haven’t learned that one yet exactly.
Timmi Jandro: But I think what you’re saying is, the accountability part is so important.
Every day, every moment, we have a choice. We have a choice to create boundaries. We have a choice to not extend ourselves out to people that might not be rising us to a level.
Maybe they are just someone that is not vibrating in the same place we are at that moment. You know what I mean? And that’s not what we need. Maybe we need more inspiration for that day. And we know where we can make those choices to be around that energy or not sometimes. But like Heather said, life happens. And just when you think you have just the right environment, something’s going to happen and you’ve got to be ready for it.
Heather Askinosie: If you work with crystals, just when you think you got your jam down, you’re like, I got this. I am on it. Bam, the next lesson arrives and it gives us another opportunity to grow and learn.
Ashley: It’s so true. You’re not saying that there’s some magic cure out there. You’re just saying, hey, it’s about being human, and it’s about these lessons and integrating and becoming more consciously aware of our own energy, of our own actions, and taking responsibility, so thank you for that so much.
We talked a little bit about some Black Tourmaline and some Black Kyanite. I love these crystals for this.
You can start with this cord cutting ritual daily and really start integrating it. And if you want to know a little bit more step by step, exactly how to do this exercise, please check out the Crystal Muse book. You can also link up with Energy Muse through their website or Instagram.
Ladies, thank you so much, Heather and Timmi, for joining us today.