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Join Adam Barralet, Kyle Perez  and Nicholas Pearson in Episode #32 of the Crystal Confab Podcast as they do a deep dive into Emerald meaning, including:

• Manifesting abundance with Emerald
• Emerald as a travel companion
• Using Emerald for radical self-love

Tune in now for a deeper look at Emerald meaning!

Podcast Episode Transcript:

Crystal Confab Podcast Introduction: Are you just starting with crystals? Or maybe you have a whole collection but aren’t sure how to use them? Join four crystal nerds, healers, workers, and lovers for crystal confab, a casual chat about all things crystals.

Adam Barralet: Welcome to this week’s episode of crystal confab. We are so excited to be talking about this crystal today, and I think Nicholas is extremely excited. We’ve talked about stones of nobility in the last few weeks. We’ve talked about sapphires. We’ve talked about ruby.

And so, of course, we must, otherwise, Nicholas would probably threaten to leave the show, talk about emerald. And that’s exactly what we’re talking about today. Joining me are Kyle and Nicholas, and we are talking about one of the things I really love about Emerald is that it’s part of a family called the Beryl family. And I just think of a bunch of old women sitting around knitting called the Beryl’s and that type of thing. But people may not realize that some of our other much loved crystals such as acmarin, heliodor, and morganite, they’re all part of the beryl file family.

Aren’t they, Kyle?

Kyle Perez: Absolutely. The beryl family is all beryllium silicates, and they are beautiful in their perfect formation. They are all hexagonal, and your pure colorless beryl is called goshenite, originally found in Goshen, The United States. I don’t know exactly where it is. I’ve forgotten.

Nicholas should be able to let me not know. I know it was named after where it was found. This is an etched Brazilian piece, really interesting, and totally colorless. You’d think it was quartz. Then you have Heliodor, yellow, named for the sun god.

I love Heliodor and aquamarine because they’re both colored by iron, and it is one ion of iron difference that changes the color from blue to yellow, which is really cool. And I can actually show you in this aquamarine that goes into heliodor from Namibia. I love to call it aquadore. You can call it whatever you want. Then we have red beryl.

Red Beryl comes from the Wawa Mountains, which I just love to say, which is too much fun. Definitely the rarest and most expensive of your Beryls. It will cost you several tens of thousand dollars a carat cut. And then a really rare interesting one, black Beryl. Weird, included, kind of interesting.

There is also a Maxixe beryl, which is a really dark, dark blue beryl that you find in Brazil that actually changes color when it comes out of the Earth. And then there’s even orange Beryl and green Beryl that you find out there as well, and it’s just an amazing family. And they’re strong gems. Remember, Beryls are eight on the hardness, so they’re good sturdy gems that actually last well in jewelry. So look for all of the colors of the rainbow, please.

Adam: And do you find, Kyle, the, the Beryls are good as a family for something in particular?

Kyle: I literally have all of my Beryls in one grid together. They all live together in one grid, and they all access all of the elements, and they connect to fae, and they connect to light and joy and all of this really uplifted energy. I actually have a crystal skull carved, two in morganite, three in emerald, two in aquamarine, and two in heliodor as well. I have a full collection of skulls carved in this energy, and I really love that element where you get water, you get fire, you get earth, you get air, you get it all coming in together, and it really is empowering. And I think it’s a great follow on from, you know, last week talking about everything coming together.

Maybe pop your Beryls in.

Adam: Yeah. I love that idea. And it’s funny you talk about the elemental beings. I find the Beryls to be probably the best family group for bringing in elemental energy. I love either Heliodor or Goshenite for the Fae realms.

I love Acrebrine. It’s said to be one of the favorite stones of the Merfolk. I think, big fight is really great or Red Beryl is really great for dragon energy. It’s got real power in it. And then, of course, emerald is really great for gnome energy, and that will kind of come unpacked as we talk about this.

But I think me and Kyle are just torturing Nicholas off camera at the moment because he’s just like, let me talk about Emerald, and we’re just having a dialogue here. Nicholas, tell us all about why you love Emerald and why it’s we. I asked Nicholas if you had a ranking top, but it’s in your top family. Is that right?

Nicholas Pearson: Yeah. Yeah. I’m, you know, I’m sure all of us being in the public sphere working with crystals, we get asked on a pretty regular basis, what is your favorite crystal? What’s your top five? And I have favorites for different reasons at different times.

My favorite thing to collect, hands down, is quartz because you’ll never get bored. It’s what started my collection. My favorite thing to work with therapeutically for me in my journey has been a rhodonite. My favorite thing just for the sheer beauty of it is petersite, but the stone whose mythology and magic just floors me every time I get a chance to, like, have that intimate connection to it and its story is emerald. And what a magical and subversive stone it has been throughout history.

So I’m gonna give us, like, the short version of the the history to today, because I really wanna, like, jump into this, like, deeper symbolism that that I’ve experienced with emerald. We get emerald in English from French, which is, you know, derived from Latin, which comes from Greek, which ultimately comes from even older roots. But in Greek, it just meant greenstone. So our ancient emeralds, much like our ancient sapphires and our ancient rubies, were just things that color. And what we find in emerald is a lot of history that connects it to the natural world because green things grow from the Earth.

Emeralds are green and found in the Earth. They’re extraordinarily rare, true. Emeralds are formed with tiny little bits of trace chromium in them. There’s some debate. Some gemological institutions will honorarily allow Beryl colored by vanadium to be called Beryl or to be called emerald.

Others absolutely will not. So I’m in the ‘will not’ camp. But, the magic of emeralds is in part linked to the fact that they don’t form like most other Beryls. A lot of our gem quality Beryls, we’re gonna find in igneous environments. We’re gonna find them in pegmatites, which are thought of granite, but with much larger components because it cooled so much more slowly and gave time for these crystals to form into very high quality gems.

And a lot of our really good gem materials in general come from pegmatites, but not emeralds. They form in metamorphic environments. We’re gonna find them largely in schist, occasionally in some other metamorphic rocks. Very rarely, there’s a well known Chinese deposit that is formed in a primary and igneous rock. But what is happening is the beryllium essential to the make of beryl, it’s a beryllium aluminum cyclosilicate, and the chromium that gives it that rich green color almost never occurs together.

So what we need is for literally the making of mountains, the folding of landscapes in half, the doubling of them over, the squeezing and stretching. And then the icing on the cake is a little bit of extra hydrothermal activity going on. And in those little pockets in the in between, we can bring together these other ingredients, the beryllium and the chromium with the very common, silicon and oxygen and aluminum and and and any other trace elements might be in there to give us emeralds. But because of that kind of tortuous and arduous history, geologically speaking, they’re usually not very big, and they’re usually not very transparent. They’re often riddled with flaws of all different kinds.

We usually find them in, as Kyle showed, schist kind of rock, which is a really high grade metamorphism. So I’ve got some Brazilian emeralds here in the matrix. This is a gift from my dear friend, Takeda. And, you know, when we’re really lucky, we’ll find big emeralds or we’ll find transparent emeralds. Sometimes we find them both at the same time.

My largest is this one here from Ethiopia, and it’s got this beautiful biotite, you know, relic of the schist that came out of here. And this is unusually large for an emerald. It’s not unusually high quality. I could afford only one of those modifiers, and it was not quality, so I went for quantity over quality for once. But emeralds in history have been used, like true emeralds, have been used since the Neolithic era in Northern Africa, and they were fashioned into at least one headdress or crown that has been found.

There’s some rough dark emeralds in it. There’s also bone and natural resin holding the whole thing together. We see inventory records from Babylon that record the sale of emeralds around six thousand years ago. We can’t be sure they’re the same species, but they were a precious green stone. We’ve got large scale mining of emeralds that takes place for the very first time in Egypt in the mines at Wari Sekait, which under the kind of Roman Hellenistic occupation period was named was renamed Mons Muragnus or Mount Emerald because of how rich the emeralds were there.

And this was around 1,500 BCE, so like 3,500 ago. We find stones there that were buried with the dead and worn as jewelry by the living. Inscribed stones were used as talismans. These were deeply spiritual, divinely touched gemstones. Those Egyptian mines were exploited by the Roman and the Byzantine empires, and they spread like wildfire.

But, eventually, they were exhausted. We find some emeralds in Austria and the Havertzal region. More recently, we get them from places like Pakistan, Afghanistan, China, Brazil, Zimbabwe, and this very small pocket that was quite prolific for a moment, up in Ethiopia. But by far, the finest emeralds that we tend to find are from Colombia, and they definitely changed the course of emeralds history. But the availability of those Emeralds is linked to things like colonialism, imperialism, the extraction of wealth via human labor, and the subjugation of brown and indigenous folks.

So it is complicated, and emeralds are a product of this very complicated history. Folklorically, the magic of them is linked to things like the power of Venus, in Western European and Northern European witch folklore, we see that the locus of the mythical site where the witch’s sabbat takes place is sometimes called Mount Venus. It is also occasionally called Mount Emerald, Mount Smaragdas. In some of these trial accounts, we see that the gem is associated with the god Thoth in Egypt who is the father of writing and measuring calendars and magic. And so there’s so much of this magical lore that is wrapped up in this stone, but there are a couple of, like, big myths.

We can’t unpack the whole stories on all of them, but they are etched indelibly in our psyche, and they’re also very magical. We have this story of an emerald that is said to have fallen from the crown of the most beautiful of all angels. And when it fell to earth, some say it shattered. Some say it stayed whole and was carved into a great big tablet upon which were written the instructions for the alchemical art. In another version, it becomes the holy grail.

And yet another, it’s set in a ring that is gifted to King Solomon that he uses to command the spirits that build the first temple. There are so many of these stories that link emeralds to magic. And in the modern kind of new age interpretations of Emerald, we see a really strong connection to this Venusian quality of love. And not just love as a romantic situation, but love is a force that changes matter itself. I really love an interpretation that comes to us from a practice called gemstone energy medicine or sometimes just gym therapy, which sounds like it should mean the same thing as just saying crystal healing.

I assure you it does not. But in this specific practice, Emerald is thought of as like the archetypal carrier of the green ray, the ray that represents the ability for things to materialize, to come into existence. And the, like, deeper message of the green ray is that everything we touch is a product of divine love. Emerald is considered a master healer because love is the force that heals everything from the inside out. And when I compare that to the midst of the Holy Grail, the Emerald Tablet, Lucifer’s Crown, I see this kind of storyline that emerges.

And we live in a world where if we just listen to the loudest voices in any room coming from whatever medium, we hear messages that we aren’t good enough. We aren’t pretty enough. We aren’t wealthy enough. We aren’t successful enough. I’m no longer young enough.

I’m also not old enough. I’m not enough in any way. And it’s really hard to feel like you matter when you aren’t enough. It is so hard to feel worthy of just about anything, let alone success and love and fulfillment in life. And Emerald inverts this narrative in a really big way.

The message of Emerald is the message of radical self love. Emerald tells us that there’s nothing specific you have to do to be worthy of love. There’s no action that you can take to earn it. There’s no milestone that makes you meritorious. You exist.

That’s it. Therefore, you are worthy of love. You matter because you matter. And that idea of matter is linked up to in Latin, it comes from the same root as the word mother. We are born as products of this divine love, this unconditional love that moves mountains to birth these sacred green stones.

It is maybe the love and the worthiness of a rebel angel who decided not to start a war in heaven, but to be a symbol of light. This, for after all, literally means light bearer, and brought that light from the spiritual into the material to become the soul inhabiting the matter that is our planet. This is similar to the myth of the planetary logos, the embodiment of our earth who in Vedic principles is described as Sanath Kumara, a serpent like being who fell from the heavens, who

Adam: descended from the planet Venus to take up residence in the middle of the

Nicholas: earth, who is in the middle of the Earth, who is the king of the Nagas, the kind of serpent-like spirits who, among other things, hoard precious gems, including emeralds. We see in the crown of Lucifer the opportunity to be our own light bearers, to be crowned sovereign through reclaiming the worthiness of love. And when we love ourselves that radically, we go, well, you know what? If I can change the way I feel about this, if I can change myself, can’t I change the world too? I believe in a world, me as Nicholas, I believe in a world where each of us is owed nothing less than that sense of fulfillment, that sense of worth, that sense of hope that comes from knowing you are loved in that way.

And I aim to see a world that is more just and equitable through that power of love. And that is not an easy task. Climbing Mount Venus to reach the summit and see that change is scary, but we don’t have to do it alone because we do it together in love. And when we do, we find the tablet there that has the instructions for alchemy. We find the holy grail said to have been carved from the self same emerald, and it is the crucible in which alchemy takes place.

And the secret here is that it’s not really about finding a magical cup or a rock with some writing on it or a crown with some fabulous gem. The emerald that is all of these things is the emerald of our heart. It is the gem that we are. It is the light we radiate into the world. It is the magic we live and breathe each moment if only we could remember it.

And if more of us do, it’s gonna be a better world. So that’s why I

Adam: I love what you’ve shared there, and I think it’s really quite poignant at the moment about, you know, I I love that term, you matter because you are a matter. That’s brilliant. And I heard a really great quote in the last few days about, it’s not about wokeness. It’s about kindness. And it’s just about being kind to one another, but also being kind to yourself.

And I think what you’ve just shared there is that Emerald does that in a really profound, but also really simple way. Would you agree, Nicholas?

Nicholas: Yeah. I mean, a question I ask myself a lot lately and one I’m endeavoring to ask myself more is, when faced with an option, you know, like commenting on social media, replying to an email that I think is outrageous, Is this answer going to be perceived as loving? Is this answer going to generate more kindness in the world? Is this answer going to maintain or spread that flame of radical love? And sometimes the answer is get the f out of here, and that is the kindest thing you can do because someone else’s unkindness is harming more people.

And other times, it’s swallowing your pride and saying, thank you so much for your message. Or even better yet, to the strangers on the Internet saying nothing at all

Adam: Mhmm.

Nicholas: Because I can have that fulfillment and that light and that love within me, I don’t I don’t have to go exercise anywhere where it’s not wanted or welcome. But it’s also standing up for the people you care about, yourself, your loved ones, the marginalized people of the world. Like, we’re all in this together. Why not try to make the world a kinder

Adam: place? Why not? Exactly. I’d love to expand also on what you shared, with that aspect of healing and love as well. You mentioned the angel, Lucifer.

I’ve found and, again, we say often on confab that we’re not right. We just share our perspectives. And I’ve always matched the four noble crystals of diamond, sapphire, emerald, and ruby to the four archangels. So I pair ruby with Michael, Sapphire with Gabrielle, Diamond with the real, and so Raphael with Emerald. And I find Raphael a really interesting angel because at first sight, you go, he’s the healing angel or and that’s the angel you call upon whenever you you’re sick or you need healing in that way.

But each of these angels is also a governor of one of the different magical elements. And so Raphael is also of the element of air. So what we have here is we have an angel that’s to do with healing and physical healing, but then also air, which is to do with the intellect. Now when we look at Emerald, it’s green. It has this we’ve been talking about this earthly kind of quality about it, but then has associations with auth and wisdom as well.

What I love about someone working in the health industry and the holistic healing industry is as you know, maybe we can thank Louise Elle Hay for there are probably people who preceded her, but it’s coming into modern understanding now that our mental state and our physical state are interlinked. And I love this idea of working with Emerald and working with Rafael, not just saying, can you fix my sore knee? Can you stop these migraines? But looking at it, okay. What’s happening on a surface mental level?

Is there too much stress in my life? And is that causing different ailments in my body? But, also, there are some really great references. As I said, Louise L. Hey.

“You can Heal Your Life” is kind of the archetype of the book, but Ina Seagal’s done work on it. There’s another great book called Barometer of the Soul. And these help us to understand, well, okay. Why are these things manifesting in my body and not in someone else’s body? Why is one person smoking like a chimney and that they live into a hundred and the next person smoking like a chimney and dies of lung cancer at 35 types of thing?

And I find Emerald is this great amulet helping us with our healing and taking responsibility for our healing. We live in a culture and there is a shift where we hand over the power of our health and our healing to an expert and or to a pharmaceutical. And we’re like, can you just give me a tablet that will fix it? But what you’ll find a lot of the time with this is that pharmaceuticals and I’m not here to bag pharmaceuticals, but often what they do is they band aid a check of an issue. They don’t, they don’t look at the root cause.

And true healing, as with whether we’re talking about physical healing, mental healing, or emotional healing, or spiritual healing, encourages us to dive deeper and learn from that rather than just Band Aid that. I think Emerald brings in this really grounded energy, as Nicholas said so beautifully, a loving energy and a wise energy. Now we can see that as the angel Raphael, or we can just see it purely as that crystal manifestation of Emerald. And I think it is an amazing healing crystal for all types of healing. And it is maybe because of its price, not celebrated as much.

But, again, as we’ve said, I have a tumbled emerald that I use a lot that would have cost me 20 Australian dollars, not much at all. So it’s really beautiful in that healing work. I also wanna just kinda throw in where I use Emerald the most is actually with travel. And, so Rafael, being the angel of air as well, is sometimes associated with travel. So I have a bit of a ritual.

I fly. I’m off to Europe next week, and I come to America once a year. And, you know, I’m often in planes, and it doesn’t matter how many times you get on a plane. I don’t think anyone feels totally comfortable. It’s a little bit scary in that way.

So we want that protection, and we also want that protection, you know, as when we’re in foreign lands and unusual areas out of our comfort zone as well. So I’ve got into the habit of always having an emerald, just a tumbled stone that goes in my luggage. And I basically just say a little kind of incantation as I pop it in there and summon that to make this emerald and my luggage end up where I end up. So that kind of protection of luggage. So if you’re a little bit worried about that, you know, that can be really great.

That normally sits in this little backpack. So if you’ve ever seen me in person, I’m always carrying around this black backpack, which has all my essential oils in it. And, funnily enough, I had some of my most precious essential oils when I went on a recent trip. And I still don’t know how I did it, but I just left it at the airport. I went and got in an Uber.

I was busy saying goodbye to people and organizing people in a suitcase, and I left one with rare essential oils that I can’t get my hands on again. But luckily enough, the best place to leave a bag is at the airport because no one’s going to pick up a bag that’s just sitting there because they are worried. So luckily, it was picked up by security, and I got it back. But that was the emerald kind of working. But I also have a ritual that I do every time I’m flying.

So this is my emerald ring that I wear. I wear emerald on this hand. I wear nummite, which I consider to be one of the most powerfully protective rings on my other hand, and I wear a falcon’s eye or a blue tiger’s eye pendant. And just after the safety demonstration, you normally taxi and are ready for takeoff. I put my finger here on this ring, and I basically just say a little prayer to Rafael saying, please look after the well-being of myself and everyone else on this flight.

May we get to our destination with no major hiccups and that type of thing as well. And so far, so good. But what I found really, really interesting is with turbulence. If ever there’s turbulence on a plane, I will pop my finger straight on this ring, and I visualize Rafael grabbing the plane and stabilizing it. And I find as soon as I do that, it’s almost as though the turbulence will keep going, but it’s downgraded a little bit.

And I visualize Rafael kind of steadying the plane through that turbulence as well. What’s really interesting though, here in Australia, I found that this technique works a lot better with Qantas and Virgin than it does with Jetstar. So I don’t know. And I guess who’s a discount carrier in The States, Nicholas? Is it like JetBlue?

Nicholas: No. They’re quite nice. Spirit or Frontier.

Adam: Yeah. So I would say if I was traveling around America, it would work better with something like Delta or United, but not with Spirit type of thing. So I just think angels actually discriminate, but it does seem Rafael does when it comes to helping out with turbulence in that way. But, you know, if you are a bit of a nervous traveler, I often get asked what crystals are good for when you’re traveling. Those three when I’m actually on a plane, but Emerald, I find to be really, really great for that travel aspect as well.

So anytime you wanna work with Rafael, and I really encourage you to kind of dive a little bit deeper on the realm that Rafael can help with as well. He’s also the governing angel of the planet Mercury. But I do find emerald is very much a Venetian stone, so that’s the joy of correspondences as well. Nicholas.

Nicholas: I think we could also mention that in Vedic astrology, the primary gem of Mercury is emerald. So if it is a stone that gets it it gets a lot of attributes over history. In some western occult traditions, it’s the primary gem of Saturn. So it does have these kinds of serious Saturnian qualities associated with the material realm. It’s got the loving tenderness of Venus, and then it moves.

Literally, it’s made by the moving of tectonic plates. So, yeah, I think it embodies all these things, and that really underscores why it’s such a great travel gem.

Adam: Yeah. So it’s amazing for love and healing. It’s amazing for travel, but it’s also, I guess, probably pretty good for abundance as well when you say car.

Kyle: Yeah. Let’s change it up a little bit. I’m gonna talk about abundance. What does that mean? This is really this is probably my favorite emerald.

This is a twinned emerald on schist and it comes from the gold fields of Western Australia. I just love it. It’s not big but it is mighty powerful in its vibration and I like to as we’ve spoken about, emerald is one of the archetypal stones and I’ve touched on this with ruby sapphire. It also, for me, touches on the archetype of certain people. And for me, when I’ve noticed emerald wearers, emerald wearers are individuals on their own schedule and they are people that have plenty of time, plenty of money, plenty of everything.

I find emeralds to add a lushness and abundance, a luxurious energy, and it allows us to have and when I think about it as a visual, I’m always put into a rainforest. It gives me this, like, green on green on green. And there’s actually a term in gemology that’s really important when it comes to emeralds, and it’s that they look like a garden. When you look into them, they are just so amazing. They have different phases of inclusions.

They’ll have gas bubbles. They’ll have water. They’ll have three phases, and there is so much inside of them. And when you think about a rainforest, it is abundant. There are so many different layers of green.

There are so many different plants. There are insects galore. There is the hierarchy all working together, and it’s so much. And that’s abundance. Right?

And it’s all working together until we interfere. If we get involved as humans, generally, we mess it up. But if we leave it, the rainforests are literally the lungs of the Earth. They are the things that keep this planet breathing. Right?

When we have abundance, everyone is sharing in that abundance. Everyone gets to benefit from that abundance. So don’t hold yourself back from having. This idea of abundance and money, let’s change it up. It’s not always about money.

It could be about time, friendship, connection, love, support. Abundance is lots. Right? It’s an overflow. You don’t necessarily need an overflow of money.

It can be useful, but often, you know, like moss to a flame, it can draw more problems. More money, more problems. And it’s important to think, what do I actually need more of? I need enough money. This has been my last several years, and I’ve worked with it so intensely if I have enough money.

I don’t need more because I will probably spend more because I’m still trying to do less. Like, my thing over the last few years has been about doing less to achieve more, about being more efficient with our energy. Those that lie in the jungle and live in the jungle use their energy efficiently. There are nocturnal creatures. There are daytime creatures.

Those that hunt hunt quietly and slowly, and they have enough. And they have enough as a month as a part of the whole that has enough. Right? And I think that’s a really important thing with Emerald. And as Nicholas said, like, it’s love.

Everything is love. Abundance, it’s all connected in the same sort of way. And I found this was my very first little crystal skull, Brazilian emerald. You can only just see, like, little bits of green throughout it, and it was very much, let’s go on a journey into the jungle. Let’s actually go out and see that there is so much there are so many opportunities for you.

There is not a lack. It changes that idea from lack to there is. There is an opportunity. There is a redirection. There is a chance for something.

There is something that I can bring into myself. I’m not always going to be stuck if I can’t. And that is that mentality of I am not allowed to have enough. I can’t. There’s no way forward.

We get kind of trapped within ourselves, and it’s normal. The universe is kind of bombarding us. But if we stop and go for a walk into the jungle, into the forest, listen. There’s harmony there. Right?

It can seem chaotic at first, but when we stop, everything is working. When we stop in our own lives, yes, there’s all these things happening. There’s all these predators and all these things trying to fight for the light to live, but they all live. They all exist. When we tell ourselves we have enough and we’re allowed to have, we automatically change what comes to us, and we can bring more into our lives.

There was a big lesson that I had with this where I was using time, and I was busy, so I had no time. And I was always busy, so I had no time. And it was this cycle of being busy. And I was grateful for being busy because it meant I was working and I was earning. And I was like, but I don’t have time.

And I don’t have time. And then the universe went, you want time? I’m like, yeah. I really want time. And it went, okay.

Here’s burnout. I’m gonna put you on your bottom. I’m gonna force you to stop, and I’m going to make you have time. And all of a sudden, I’ve had all of this time, and I’ve been able to utilize my time better. I’ve been able to, like, stop and do enough with my day.

I utilize my energy more efficiently to get what I need to get done. Instead of trying to, like, do so much throughout, do this. Spread it throughout. I have a work schedule that now has days off in between my days because I need a day to recover when I do something really physical. And so I now know that I have time and I’m earning enough.

I’m paying my bills. Right? It’s the mentality of, like, I need to be busy because I need to earn money and I need to survive has changed to I’m working enough. I’m earning enough. I’m taking care of my physical vessel because that’s what it needs and that’s my priority, and that’s allowing me to build up to more.

Right? It’s that cyclical nature. Sometimes we have lots and lots, and we’re doing lots and lots, and sometimes it’s less and we’re doing less, but we’re still abundant in our choices. We still have enough for us. And I think that is one of the core messages with Emerald that has been for me specifically is there is enough of whatever it is that you want, whatever it is that you need, there is enough of it there.

Just, like, bring it into yourself. Like, draw it in. Allow yourself to have. Allow yourself to, like I like to visualize myself, as, I can’t remember her first name, Adani, the Indian billionaire lady that wore all the emeralds to her son’s wedding last year. Like, those like, I just like to visualize myself in that when I’m working with my little emerald, and it’s like, I’m abundant.

I’m a billionaire. I’m so wealthy, and I am doing enough.

Adam: I’m so glad you took this approach when talking about abundance with Emerald because I think a lot of people when they do think of abundance, they’re like, give me the money. It’s gonna bring in more of that financial wealth as well. And I love the example you talked about with, you know, business versus time and work versus time. And I know, you know, reflecting on my last few years, how I’ve made decisions in my life for both money and career, at the detriment probably of friendships because I’ve I’ve you know, sometimes I just don’t have enough time to catch up with friends or nurture those friendships. And I love this idea of the Emerald, helps us work out what is enough.

And I I wonder if that’s even reflected in its energy being hexagonal, and six is often seen as a really harmonious and balancing number between, you know, finding balance between that work, life, friend, personal life, you know, all those different things that we need to balance. How do we find that harmony? I think emerald could be a really key crystal for this, would you say, Kyle?

Kyle: One thousand percent. I think all of the beryl family has that hexagonal shape. I think apatite, beryl, quartz, even though it’s trigonal, they still when they form hexagonally, when you get those six sided crystals, when you get that Beryl, like, there’s just this secure strength and balance, and I just don’t think anything compares to the way emerald works. I think green garnet comes close but I don’t think anything compares to how emerald is. So don’t worry about it being clear.

Don’t worry about it being perfectly transparent. Just work with whatever emerald you can connect to. My very first piece and the piece that I had for the longest time is this little tumble. And it’s innocuous, and it was a pocket piece that I had in that little crystal pocket every day for so, so long. And I think we get too hell bent on, you know, size and price, and emerald is something that skyrocketed especially over the last five years.

Like, it has gone up, especially gem stuff. And I think we go, oh, I can’t have. And that in turn is that the lesson of emerald is no. Yes. I can.

Yes. I can have. I’m just gonna have a cute little tumble. I’m just gonna have a little piece in my pocket. I’m just gonna get the littlest skull that I could find.

It’s so cute and so little. Like, it doesn’t have to be big, and it’s still gonna bring a lot to you.

Adam: I’m really glad, you know, and maybe this is great that Ashley is not here this week because I kinda wanna ask you guys while it’s just us guys here together and no one else is here. But often I get asked and I often wonder, does size matter when it comes to our crystals, of course. That’s what I mean. And, Kyle, would you say no? Not necessarily?

How do you normally answer that question?

Kyle: It’s never the size. It’s how you use it. Right? It’s the intention. It’s the focus.

There are definitely some crystals that the bigger they get, the more energetic you will feel from them. Like, there is definitely that thing that comes from bigger pieces, but you can get so much done with so little. As we spoke about last week, sorry, a couple of weeks ago with Jet, like, my two pieces have gotten me through fifteen years of crystal work. Right? We don’t have to have giant pieces of things to achieve great things.

And if you have a small anything, add clear quartz because clear quartz will amplify it, and you will amplify its energy. So if you can get a piece of clear quartz to connect to something smaller, it’ll boost it like a receptor, like an amplifier of a radio wave.

Adam: Nicholas, does size matter?

Nicholas: Yes. But not necessarily for the reasons people think it does. I mean, no two ways about it. If you have two examples of the same crystal and everything else about them is identical, but one is much larger, you’re gonna feel the difference. I mean, I’m gonna hold up two smokey quartz crystals for you.

I mean, there is no comparison. Right? And, yes, size influences the experience of crystal energy, but bigger doesn’t mean better. I like to think of the analogy of a speaker. The bigger speaker can be louder.

Louder is not better. It’s just louder. There are applications where we can work with a small crystal, and it feels like an intimate whisper, and that’s all we need. But if you need to get someone’s attention from down the street, you better shout. So when I do bigger work, things that are not just about me, but about community, about the planet, about connecting with people in bigger ways.

I like to have the big guns out for that. I love working with large crystals. I have had at the center of grids, crystals that weigh in excess of 2,000 pounds. I did not bring them there. Obviously, I brought the grid to the crystal.

But this is the kind of work that I have had the pleasure and privilege to be able to do over my crystal journey. I get to regularly commune with a 30 pound gem quality blue topaz at my day job and an eight foot tall amethyst bug, which scarcely fits through the door. And I think it’s okay to say that big crystals are good. There’s so much, I think, tiptoeing around the idea that you don’t need a big crystal to do things, and, therefore, they’re the same. You do not need a big crystal to make healing happen, but they’re not the same in the same way that you don’t need to have a big house to have a fulfilled life.

But a tiny one bedroom apartment and a sprawling palatial estate, they’re not the same. So I think we should just be transparent and say, you don’t need the big crystal, but they do feel different. And that’s, of course, only if all the other parameters are the same. If I have a teeny tiny gem quality emerald and then my big honking one that is anything but gem quality, they don’t feel the same because it’s not a one for one comparison. It’s apples to oranges.

So we do have to hold space for the fact that habit or form, quality, color, saturation, all of these other things also impact our experience of crystal’s energy. It’s not just size. And oftentimes, I’m really happy to go for a smaller gem of much finer quality than I am something enormous, but it’s also nice to have both at the same time in the case of some of my beloved crystals here.

Kyle: I totally love that. And I think it’s really important that, like, that whole thing of bigger things can do bigger things. And I think that’s a really nice way of putting things. And that is something I discovered at the Natural History Museum in London. Like, their gem collection, that big open floor of crystals is just something else.

Right?

Nicholas: Can I just tell you a story about that museum and that collection, specifically about an emerald? I did not know as a 30 grown adult that you could just look at a rock and weep in public when people are growing increasingly concerned. But the very first time my husband and I traveled, before we married, my husband and I traveled to England in 2019, and, the first full day we had in The UK was me teaching a very long class. I’d have never actually taught, like, a whole day crystal class, but the last crystal we talked about was the the second to last, was Red Coral, and we’re talking about the myth of Medusa and, like, this beautiful feminist retelling of it, and that led into the magic of Emerald, which, you know, I’m really passionate about. And the next day, we go straight to the Natural History Museum, and they’ve got, you know, like, the old school glass boxes filled with rocks, which I love, but I know to the average person is not super exciting.

So I spent, I don’t know, maybe two and a half hours methodically going through every single one in every box, taking hundreds of pictures, and then I finally got to the vault, they call it, the, you know, big, swanky, fancy exhibit at the end. And I I make my way around the exterior part, and then there’s, like, a little island in the middle. And the very last thing that I see on display is an emerald specimen painstakingly excavated over the process of several years to remove it from the matrix. It is a collection of emerald crystals, some of which are longer than six inches and of gem quality, and the specimen is called the Medusa. It’s like her snakes emerging from her scalp.

And I tell you, I saw this stone, and I just wept and wept. And I’ve never seen an emerald as beautiful as this one. Not in person yet.

Kyle: No. That little so that little vignette of, is something else. And their collection of diamonds that they’ve collected that fluoresce and are all different colors, like, is something else. But it was for me, when we got down below the crystals, we came down as big beautiful steps. Right beneath the geological section is like a meter by meter and a half gypsum cluster.

Huge, huge thing. And I sat with that thing, and it was like, I’m the one that’s doing all the work in this place. I am the one that is keeping everything cleansed and in order. I am the one that they all need to be thanking. And I was like, I’m gonna sit with you for five minutes.

Thank you very much for your time. So if you go, make sure you check that one out below because that is a huge thing that’s doing a lot of amazing work.

Adam: Well, regardless of our audience, I’m grateful for this conversation because I will be in The UK in exactly two weeks’ time, and that will be somewhere I’m going to go. And I’ll go through the gyps and and and, you know, thank you for your service. Thank you for your service. I’ll be very grateful as well. So I think, Emerald, we’ve really kind of encapsulated.

It is such an amazing crystal. Maybe people have not gone after it because they’ve gone, oh, no. That’s too expensive, that type of thing. And that’s why I really wanted to have that conversation about, you know, just find something that works for you and in your budget and bring that energy in. It helps with healing.

It helps with self love. It helps with that abundance. It helps with gravel. It is really a crystal must. And when there are so many different green crystals, sometimes emeralds get buried amongst the list of other green crystals you may have in your collection.

But I hope today, we’ve been able to open your heart, not only to yourself, but to emerald as well. Now for those that have written to us and have been concerned because Ashley hasn’t been here for three weeks, do not worry. It’s simply the fact that sometimes when we’re traveling, trying to get all four of us to talk at the same time can be a bit of a trouble. I won’t be here next week, because of my travel commitment, but we are still committed to confabbing every week and keeping you updated with all different crystals. So as we’ll be back next week, could we take it over from me, to keep these other two rowdy bunch under control as well?

Until then, go get your Emerald out, and we will see you next week. Take care, and blessed be.

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